I think there was one painting I did. I started, I was making sketchbooks for something that I wanted to submit to this program, that I didn't end up getting into actually... it was years ago. But I was making these sketchbooks and I was trying to fill them up really quickly. And I was doing it outside. And then I started to draw around loads of like shadow shapes, there were loads of plants... I'd start to draw around them. So that was the start of everything. So they got really into these like, kind of intricate but slightly distorted organic forms by drawing around the shadows and painting them. And then I did one little circular panel, where I overlapped them, and then I painted a face within it. And I think as soon as I did that one, I was like, Oh, this is how I want to paint. And then that must have been like maybe two years ago that that first happened, that like overlapping forms and faces. And then I've just been like trying to keep doing that and trying that technique. I've been trying loads of new stuff recently. And it's all been going disastrously... But I think that experimenting... sometimes you're like, Wow, it's amazing. And sometimes it's not working. And because I think I'm just always trying to find ways to like, make those two things exist, I'm working with lots of thin layers. I don't know sometimes I'm like, I feel like I'm over complicating it, but it is complicated with all the layers.